Spindle Taper Standards
Tool Holders are largely identified by the Spindle Taper they’re designed for and the Tool Holder Type (e.g. Coolet Chuck, Weldon, etc.).
BT stands for “Bottle Grip Taper”. BT has a tapered shank if a 7/24 taper. BT comes in sizes such as BT30, BT40, and BT50. BT is the most widely used taper for machine tools in Japan. BT tool holders are held in place by a pull stud or retention knob.
CAT is a similar taper to BT–both a V-Flange Tapers. CAT is the most widely used taper in the US. CAT tool holders are held in place by a pull stud or retention knob. Common sizes for CAT are CAT40 and CAT50.
BBT is a spindle taper developed by Big Daishowa Seiki to provide improved rigidity and grip versus BT. It is a “Dual Contact Taper,” meaning that the shank contacts the spindle taper and the spindle face simultaneously. BBT tool holders are held in place by a pull stud or retention knob.
HSK stands for “Holschefte-Kegel” which means hollow shank taper in German. HSK is the most widely used tool holders for machine tools in Germany. HSK tool holders are designed from the start for use in high spindle speed applications, and particularly for high speed machining. Fingers inside the hollow shank of the tool holder clamp the holder by pushing out and deforming it. High spindle speeds create centrifugal force that actually strengthens HSK clamping. In many ways, HSK is the most modern tool holder for machine tools.
Like CAT, ISO are V-Flange tapers with metric dimensions as required for European use.
NMTB was the original V-Flange taper.
The R8 Taper was originally designed by Bridgeport for use in its machine tools.
Other Spindle Tapers not often seen on CNC machines include Jacobs, Jarno, and Morse.
Tool Holder Types
Over the years, we’ve written a lot of articles about tool holders for milling machines. They’re an important topic and I frequently get questions about them. Recently, I found myself having to visit multiple CNCCookbook articles to answer a question and decided it was time to get all the information into one article along with refreshing the research and seeing what new information I could add. In addition, I wanted to make as much of the information tabular as possible to make it easy to refer to. Here’s what I came up with:
For each tool holder type, there are multiple rows with scores from 1 to 4, where a higher score is better. 4 is the best score and 1 is the worst.
Let’s go over each row and what it means.
To achieve precision, you’ll need low runout and repeatability for the tool holder. The Weldon-style set screw holder has the lowest precision because set screws against a flat on the tool shank will push the tool off center and because you can’t guarantee repeatability since a slight rotation of the cutting tools shank will change the exact point at which the setscrews engage.
This is simply a measure of how many shank sizes a single tool holder of the type can accommodate. In theory, greater versatility means you’ll need fewer tool holders.
Ease of Use
This is a measure of how easy it is to setup cutting tools in the tool holder or take them back out. Nothing could be easier than using a set screw holder–just stick a cutter in and tighten the set screws. The Shrink-Fit holder requires the use of a heat shrink machine to do anything. In the middle are tool holders that require proper assembly torque.
This is a good time to put in a plug for proper ER collet chuck torquing. For best performance, ER collet chucks require a lot more torque than most machinists realize. That torque goes to keeping the tool clamped so it won’t pull out and to making the whole assembly rigid so it resists vibration and chatter.
When you hear a machinist talking about having an endmill slip in their ER collet chucks, you have to wonder two things:
– How clean was the chuck and cutter shank when they were tightened together? The slightest residue of oil or cutting fluid can rapidly reduce the collet chucks holding power.
– How much torque was used to tighten the collet nut?
Consider the following torque specs from Technik USA for ER Collet Chucks:
|Collet||Nut Type||Collets I.D.||Collets I.D.|
|OVER 1/16″ (2mm)||UNDER 1/16″ (2mm)|
|ER 16||slotted||42 ft/lbs||30 ft/lbs|
|ER 16||hex||42 ft/lbs||30 ft/lbs|
|ER 20||slotted||59 ft/lbs||24 ft/lbs|
|ER 20||hex||59 ft/lbs||24 ft/lbs|
|ER 25||slotted||77 ft/lbs||77 ft/lbs|
|ER 25||mini nut||25 ft/lbs||25 ft/lbs|
|ER 32||slotted||100 ft/lbs||100 ft/lbs|
|ER 40||slotted||130 ft/lbs||130 ft/lbs|
Are you torquing your ER32 collets to 100 ft/lbs? That’s a bunch more than a lot of folks expect going on feel alone.
Whether you use a torque wrench or not, and Technik as well as others make appropriate adapters, make sure you’ve at least got a nice wrench for your collet chucks. The single pin spanners are the worst for me when I have to apply a lot of torque. In addition, you’re going to need a way to solidly mount your collet chuck while you tighten the nut. Bench fixtures are the most helpful for this task.
This is a measure of how much maintenance is needed to keep the tool holder performing to spec. Set screw holders are dead easy as are shrink-fit–no moving parts. Collet chucks and milling chucks need to be kept clean and torqued to proper specs.
This row scores the suitability of different tool holders for high spindle speeds. “High” starts in the 8000-10,000 rpm range and the primary requirement is the ability to balance the tool holder well. Less mass in the tool holder will also help because the less mass that’s spinning, the less vibration at a given level of balance.
Working well with high speed spindles is one of the biggest reasons to invest in fancier tool holders.
Surface Finish and Roughing
These two categories get into suitability for task. For surface finish, we need to keep the modal stiffness high to resist vibration. For roughing finish, we want high dynamic stiffness to resist chatter under varying loads, rpms, and frequencies, and we want strong clamping on the tool to resist the higher forces of roughing.
Cost is near and dear to everyone’s pocketbook, and the costs vary quite a lot between these various tool holders
Drumroll please, this is the one we’ve been waiting for: what’s the best situation for each tool holder type?
This bears recapping:
– For your absolute highest MRR milling and drilling applications, consider a Side Lock or Weldon Shank-style tool holder. We’re talking big indexable cutting tools for the most part, not solid endmills.
– For mid-sized milling and drilling, consider a Milling Chuck. This is your largest solid endmills and twist drills, say 3/4 to 1″ and up. Also consider these when you have chatter problems on your big tooling using a Side Lock holder.
– For lighter milling and drilling, consider an ER collet chuck. Anything 3/4″ or under makes sense.
– For high rpm applications, consider shrink fit tool holders.
Obviously there is some gray area of overlap in each of these cases, but this should serve as a good starting point for tool holder selection.
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What about DA collets?
how do they compare to ER collets? They seem a little sturdier to me, since they are generally longer.
13, I thought about including DA collets, but the sources I consulted were not fond of them. Try Parlec, for example: http://parlecparts.com/pages/concentricity_and_balance.
Given good ER solutions, didn’t seem worthwhile to make the table bigger.
Hi Bob, I’m new to this and to your site. I’m curious to know where Sherline Endmill holders would fit. Would you classify those as sidelock holders?
Yes Eric, those are definitely side-lock holders. I wouldn’t think you’d want to use them on a Sherline. The high rpms and small cutters won’t like the runout very much. The Sherline page mentions preferring the collets. That’s more like an R8-style collet than a 5C though. If you can find a small enough 5C collet setup that works with the Sherline’s Morse Taper, that would be ideal.
Thanks., I learned something new. I enjoy your site.
I’m not sure I know what a “milling chuck” is. I have some Jacobs 14N chucks in my tool holders. Is that what the column heading means? The article’s comment about mid sized milling (3/4″ – 1″) would take a big chuck.
Thanks for a great site and great tools and organizing a great community.
Hi Lynn. Milling chucks are not related to Jacobs chucks at all:
Nikken invented milling chucks and will tell you more than you wanted to know (LOL):
RE the Jacobs chucks, a lot of machinists don’t use them, preferring ER collet chucks. They have a lot of runout and it isn’t especially advantageous to change bits in one if you have a toolchanger.
ER collets are ok and all, but to define them as the most accuracte collet is incorrect. The very common TG style and several other derivative styles exceed the ER by a good margin in clamping force and runout. The ER are simply available nearly everywhere and for cheap, not that that is good!
Juan, I could find no data that suggests TG exceeds ER “by a good margin in clamping force and runout.”
Centaur sells them all and says ER’s are the most accurate: http://centaurtools.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15&Itemid=43
They show the runout specs for both.
Parlec says ER’s are the “Highest precision standard collet chuck system.” http://www.misan.cz/download/parlec/toolholding.pdf
Frank Mari sells both types: http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/er-vs-tg-collets-166071/
ER collets have more range than TG collets.
More tool holders are available in ER style than TG.
ER collets are cheaper than TG collets.
Both have about same TIR accuracy.
Yes TG collets can grip more than ER collets, 90% or the applications ER collets are more than strong enough.
There are more toolholding systems than I have covered here. Hydraulic chucks come to mind. Unclear anything truly significantly better was missed though.
Reason we prefer ERs over TGs are the size of the clamping nut. The TG has a large square profile typically and so is a little harder to get coolant to and to clear obstructions. Though not as strong as a regular nut, the ER mini nut for example has a very small profile. I second Bob, we never use any Albrecht or Jacobs chucks in our day to day as they will not transmit anywhere near the torque the ERs or TG will.
Grades given in this chart are not wrong but they are subject to application.
For example, roughing. Shrink fit have been offering special tooling to keep tools from pulling out. Real roughing, don’t even think about a milling chuck, we have purchased several brands, NONE can hold a tool larger than 1/2″. Al, Ti, even 1018, milling chucks can not hold the tool. The #1 choice for roughing must be a solid endmill holder with a flat milled onto the carbide endmill.